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Wednesday, December 2, 2009

L.A. Times combines "LALand" blog with general business blog

Having had little luck maintaining the success of the blog "L.A. Land" upon the departure of journalist and blogger Peter Viles (and now the departure of housing writer Peter Hong), the Times has decided to combine the blog into its general business blog called "Money & Co." While it's better than getting rid of real estate-related postings altogether, I think it also proves that without a dedicated voice behind a blog that it will eventually wither away:

LA Land
has moved to a bigger, brighter, newer home. You can now find it in our Money & Company blog.

You will still be able to find all the real estate news, foreclosures, and Hot Property pieces, but now in our uber-business blog.

Before you click the link, make sure to bookmark the new url: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/real_estate/

Thursday, August 7, 2008

Union for construction workers going after homebuilders

L.A. Land blogger Annette Haddad has a post regarding a picket of KBHome's headquarters in Westwood today by the Laborer's International Union of North America. So why where they picketing? Because they're angry that the jobs lost by their 500,000 members are largely the result of homebuilders pushing unaffordable loans during the height of the housing boom, leading to its resulting bust:

The union, whose members were among the first hit by the recessionary effects of the housing downturn, protested builders' practices outside KB Home's Westwood headquarters today. On hand were several homeowners living in a KB development in Buckeye, Ariz., who said they are underwater -- owing more on their mortgages than their homes are currently worth -- and are facing foreclosure as their monthly payments ratchet higher and prices slide.

The LIUNA has produced a report in conjunction with a new group called The Alliance for Homebuyer Justice -- which you can find here in .pdf format -- which uses homeowners in Arizona as an example of predatory lending between 2004 and 2006, with loans expected to rest through 2001 and unleashing yet another wave of defaults and foreclosures.

So what does LIUNA want? Under the "What Needs to be Done" section of the report:

HUD should completely repeal the 1983 amendments to RESPA that allowed builders and other businesses to make referrals to affiliated businesses (I also wrote about this for my freelance article on builder incentives for the L.A. Times last month);

Bank of America, which acquired Countrywide, should discontinue the lending relationships that Countrywide had with the builders' mortgage operations;

Congress should pass the Emergency Home Ownership and Mortgage Equity Protection Act, allowing bankruptcy judges to modify harmful mortgages (such as by reducing the principal to the actual value of the home or changing an ARM to a fixed rate);

Rather than merely paying lip service to preventing foreclosures, as Countrywide did, Bank of America must start actually doing it (i.e., loan modifications).

Of course LIUNA also has its own agenda, to which it openly admits at the end of the report, including the right to organize unions, being paid a living wage, better training for workers, open access for homebuyers to affordable mortgages from independent sources and home prices that are targeted to what the community can afford.

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

The real cause of the subprime lending bubble

There's an interesting post by Annette Haddad at the L.A. Land blog citing a new report issued by UC Irvine's entitled "Subprime Lending and the Housing Bubble: Tail Wags Dog?" The report argues that it was actually the departure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from the lending market in 2003 due to their accounting scandals and related political pressures. From the blog:

When Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pulled back from the credit markets in 2003 and significantly slowed their lending volume in response to internal accounting problems and outside political pressure, the breach was filled by aggressive securities issuers in the private mortgage market.

And helping to fuel them on was an enthusiastic administration pushing the "dream of homeownership" without a whole lot of regulatory restraint. As a result, total mortgage volume skyrocketed and pushed up home prices "with momentum characteristic of a bubble," the study says.

Although cynics might be put off by the sponsors of the report, which included the Mortgage Bankers Association, the NAR and FreddieMac, I thought it interesting that Economy.com co-founder Mark Zandi also touches on this same subject in his book "Financial Shock: A 360-Degree Look at the Subprime Mortgage Implosion, and How to Avoid the Next Financial Crisis."

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Will the rapid decline in prices bring the bottom sooner?

Hat tip to the excellent L.A. Land blog for this find: According to the Center for Policy and Economic Research, $6 trillion in housing wealth will vaporize in 2008 due to the rapid decline in housing prices, which some argue could help the market finds its natural bottom sooner:

The Case-Shiller data released yesterday indicate the rate of house price decline is accelerating. The 20-city index declined 12.7 percent over the last year, while the 10-city index fell 13.6 percent. However, the annual rate of price decline over the last quarter was 24.9 percent in the 20-city index and 25.8 percent in the 10-city index. At this rate of price decline, the excesses of the housing bubble will have largely disappeared by the end of the year. At the same time, the price decline implies an incredibly rapid loss of wealth. In real terms, the rate of price decline in the 20-city index would imply a loss of almost $6 trillion in real housing wealth over the course of the year, an average of $85,000 per homeowner.

Year over year prices are down by 17.2 percent in San Francisco, 19.4 percent in Los Angeles, and 22.8 percent Las Vegas. Over the last quarter, prices in these cities have declined at annual rates of 26.5 percent, 26.3 percent, and 40.8 percent, respectively. Prices are even falling sharply in less inflated markets. Prices in Boston are down 4.6 percent year over year, in New York by 6.6 percent, and in Washington by 13.0 percent. Over the last quarter, the annual rates of price decline have been 15.9 percent, 11.4 percent, and 26.8 percent, respectively.

The new homes sales data released last Friday are also consistent with the picture shown in the Case-Shiller index. Sales were down by 8.5 percent from the February rate and by 36.6 percent over the last year. The Northeast showed the sharpest decline with March sales down 19.4 percent from February and 64.6 from year ago levels. The weak sales levels in the Northeast were likely in part due to better than usual weather in the prior two months, which may have pulled some March sales forward. An inventory equal to 11 months of sales (which does not include canceled sales of homes that were never occupied) will provide substantial downward pressure on prices going forward. ..

All signs point to a continued sharp decline in the market, which should get us to the bottom sooner...

In the first quarter, the vacancy rate on ownership units hit a record 2.9 percent. Before the recent crash, the vacancy rate on ownership units had never exceeded 1.9 percent. The rental vacancy rate also rose, although at 10.1 percent it is still slightly below the record of 10.4 percent set in the first quarter of 2004. Not surprisingly, the West showed the biggest increase in vacant ownership units, with the rate rising from 2.6 percent last year to 3.2 percent this year. With record vacancy rates, the downward pressure on prices should continue for the foreseeable future.

Friday, April 11, 2008

A more balanced view on the housing mess

Yesterday I was asked to provide a guest post on the LA Times blog "LA Land" to offer an opposing view to a recent article by Daniel Gross in Slate magazine lambasting the proposed tax break for homebuilders. My point was that it didn't seem fair to punish an entire industry of nearly 5 million workers for the actions of a much more limited number of executives, sales people and lenders who contributed to the housing bubble and, ultimately, the bust.

That post was followed by over 30 comments, most of which blasted me for being naive, stupid, wrong, and all other sorts of things one would expect from a controversial subject (and many of which I've shared today in previous posts on this blog). With that said, however, my own personal view is a bit more balanced, and I submitted that opinion earlier today as a comment to my original post. I've re-printed that comment below:

Hey Peter:

Thanks again for the chance to offer an opposing view yesterday to that of Daniel Gross regarding the proposed tax break for builders (which passed in the Senate but looks unlikely to pass in the House).

You asked me to provide a view in opposition to that of Mr. Gross, and that's exactly what I did, using the same types of defenses I've heard and read from homebuilders and homebuilding association. Plus, I did think that by focusing exclusively on the largest public builders he wasn't necessarily including smaller builders as well as the army of suppliers and subcontractors that do most of the actual building.

I've been keeping a close tab on the comments, and have been re-posting some of the more impressive ones on my own Housing Chronicles blog -- if I'm going to be raked over the coals it's much better coming from those who know how do it!

You've definitely got a smart and well-educated audience (more so than on some other housing blogs I read), with the best comments coming from 'baruza,' 'JohnnyB,' '150 Multiple Choice Questions,' 'arroyo grande' and 'LA,' with the funniest by far coming from 'bottom line.' And whoever 'Brian' is, you sounded so much like my banker friend Brian that I thought it was his post (it wasn't), but what a great comment!

Ok, here's what I REALLY think from a more balanced perspective: from a PR standpoint, many builders have been their own worst enemies, and if they want to re-earn the trust of the general public it simply can't be 'business as usual' anymore.

Firstly, if they want taxpayers to help them through this cash crunch, there should be some strings attached, namely stop avoiding subcontractors and suppliers to whom you owe money and don't insult them with offers of 25 cents on the dollar (which is something I heard last night after my original post).

Secondly, you'll probably have to disband these in-house mortgage operations that in many instances forced buyers to assume loans that weren't competitive so they could grab the incentives being offered. That trust is now lost and unlikely to be regained anytime soon.

Incentives should be offered on their own and not tied to anything else. Beazer Homes, which got into a lot of trouble with their in-house mortgage arm, now refers loans to Countrywide and, according to a design consultant I met the other night, says they don't attach incentives to a Countrywide loan.

Thirdly, they're going to have to provide far greater transparency (and education) throughout the entire sales process, including firing lazy/greedy/uninformed sales agents who were simple order takers during the boom. I can't tell you how frustrated I'd be listening to a sales agent attempt to explain mortgage terms to potential buyers without telling the full story.

Fourthly, we really need to license mortgage agents and brokers, force them to act as fiduciary agents for their borrowers and provide more funds to regulators so they have the muscle to pursue those who deliberately steer clients into the wrong types of loans (such as Option ARMs) because they pay a higher commission.

Fifthly, we've got to recognize that one reason this boom got out of hand was the Bush Administration's 'hands-off' policy towards regulating the housing and mortgage markets; by blindly chasing higher ownership rates they lost sight of just HOW that was happening (i.e., speculators, sub-prime mortgages, fraud, etc.). The fact is we may need some more regulation for this industry and builders may have to accept that if they expect any special treatment by the taxpayers.

Finally, one commentator said that it doesn't matter what the Fed or federal government will do, since this problem is simply too large to contain, and that may be true. The best we can hope for is a somewhat orderly realignment of housing prices against incomes and associated rents, and strict penalties for those who perpetrated fraud on sales contracts and loan documents.

There is still a lot of pain ahead, but for those who keep informed and stay on top of trends, there will be good deals now only now, but certainly in the future. It just depends on your individual circumstances.

Comments from my post at LALand, Part II

More comments from my guest blog post yesterday at LALand:

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I thought this one definitely summed it up -

Peter,
After reading the comments all that I could think of was lions, very hungry lions and Patrick Duffy. Did you warn him of what was to come. Will he read the comments.
Thanks for offering the lions a meal. They enjoyed it.

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On your first point, you are being naive. Many public builders had divisions that were writing mortgages (Centex, and Lennar, for example). If they did not thoroughly investigate the lendees, that is really their problem and they have no excuse.

Also, excuse me if I have no sympathy for the builders on another point - They TURNED THEIR BACK ON THE AMERICAN CONSTRUCTION WORKER. I have spoken to many people who used to make a nice living working construction for houses. Those jobs are now of the 7 dollar an hour variety and are performed nearly exclusively by illegal immigrant labor. Now these American workers don't have the jobs they were skilled at, and the American government gets no income tax from these under-the-table laborers. Oh, and on top of that, all of the board members paid themselves handsomely as well as took generous amounts of stock options. If these companies need help, then they should have a private offering and the well paid board members can reinvest in their dreary business.

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"It’s because of the issues with the credit market that
nonspeculators can’t sell their homes either."

Patrick Duffy makes the argument for "good" vs "bad" builders.
Dumb pity play. It doesn't matter what their motives were,
they were all chasing the inflated price of the market making
higher and higher profits per square foot of building. Now they
simply need to sell the unsold square footage in its traditional
profit range.

The price of building a home between
2000 and 2007 didn't increase much more the
general inflation. If builders chased the price of
land (which many did) then they were taking risks
that weren't prudent. They can now sell for the
actual cost per sq.foot and the actual value of land
and accept no profit or even a loss. Why is this so
difficult to understand? People lose money in
investments, everyday. This is exactly the same
scenario, just on a bigger scale. I say, let all markets
correct and only pour on Fed liquid to put out resulting
fires, not threatened ones. And when the trouble
actually hits, bailout those affected who had no part in
this RE run-up. Let the speculators get on the back
of the line.

Posted by: firesale | April 10, 2008 at 07:43 PM

We should bail out everybody who has ever made a bad decision, and make it retroactive to, say, the 1960s when a lot of bad decisions were made. The first thing I want is reparations for the useless humanities degree I earned. And I'd like to be bailed out for the countless bad investment decisions I've made over the past 20 years. I mean, why did I ever sell Intel, Dell and Microsoft back when they were in single digits? Why was I forced to do that? It was economic forces beyond my control that brought me to my sorry state. Oh, yeah, I'd like a bailout for yesterday's unfortunate decision to order the chicken marsala instead of the Kobe beef.

Posted by: Zeon | April 11, 2008 at 12:02 PM

ah, ah, ah BULLSH!T!!!!!!! Duffy calls out all the anti-bailout guys such as Gross for the need to "shoot (sic) from the brain rather than the hip" and states these comments are lacking in "rational discourse". This guy is so arrogant it makes me choke. Who is irrational?

Greed, ignorance, stupidity, any way you paint it, it is still not the obligation of the taxpayer to make up for any one of those pitfalls of private commerce.

And tell me again, how LTCM, the S&L bailout or the airlines are analogous to home builders? How is the failure of the weakest home builders going to create a cascade effect into a downward spiral for the US economy? I don't think so. These home builders can't build and sell any more homes regardless of a bailout.

All this would be doing is moving losses from private industry to ME! I got enough of my own losses, they can keep theirs.

Posted by: pathetic | April 11, 2008 at 12:32 PM

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Funny... I don't remember the home builders paying extra taxes when the sales pace and profits were breaking all previous records. If we're going to give them a tax break now, that should come with a caveat that we get to tax the hell out of them they start feeding a bubble and destabilizing the entire economy. It's only fair.

Posted by: NoWayinLA | April 11, 2008 at 02:40 PM

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Mr Duffy, to use a basketball term, you need to come strong in this house. That was some weak "stuff" you brought in here and predictably you are getting it swatted back in your face.

Posted by: Digitalian | April 11, 2008 at 09:49 AM

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I did, however, get one comment in support:

"It’s because of the issues with the credit market that nonspeculators can’t sell their homes either..." Patrick is right about this. The market stopped dead in August because lenders stopped making loans. Now that lending has picked up somewhat, so has sales activity.

There is a simple reason why builders build homes: consumer demand. Whether those consumers are flippers or not, and even if the reasons for the demand weren't sound, there is no denying that there has been a huge demand, fed by easy credit, that has lead to lots of new homes.

Comments from my post at LALand, Part I

Yesterday I was asked to provide a guest post on the LA Times blog "LA Land" to offer an opposing view to a recent article by Daniel Gross in Slate magazine lambasting the proposed tax break for homebuilders. My point was that it didn't seem fair to punish an entire industry of nearly 5 million workers for the actions of a much more limited number of executives, sales people and lenders who contributed to the housing bubble and, ultimately, the bust. I have a brother who's a subcontractor to builders, and he, like many others, wouldn't necessarily have the staying power to wait for new builders to emerge should a large portion of an entire industry go bankrupt.

From the 17 comments currently posted, my post was certainly controversial, with almost all of them calling me everything from "naive" to "idiotic." But these aren't nut cases spouting out emotional rhetoric -- many comments are very well written and take me to task with a number of valid points. One thing is clear -- builders have a huge PR debacle on their hands that will follow them for years, and if they hope to regain the trust of the public they're simply going to have to change the way they do business. Because when your own suppliers and subs hate you, it's time for something different.

Some of the best comments so far:

1. Even if they weren't greedy, that's not the question. Firms that make bad business decisions aren't entitled to ex post protection because they had good motives.

2. See 1

3. This is the crux of his argument and really all it amounts to is two wrongs make a right. He offers no evidence for why "the risks to the economy outweigh those clucking on about 'moral hazards.'" It's simply assumed: circular argument at its worst. All large homebuilders do is reduce the building cost for new homes. They employ very few people directly, and they don't generate many jobs. The people they contract with to actually do the building will be out of work with or without these tax breaks because there is simply an oversupply and lack of demand for their services. If these companies go bankrupt, when demand for new construction homes returns, people would simply have to pay a slightly greater price for them, or in the very unlikely event demand were to return anytime soon to 2002-2005 levels new companies of exactly the same sort could be formed--and hopefully the new ones could do a better job managing the risks of the business. Same goes for the everyman worker he is disengenously pitching as the beneficiary here. Times were good for many people the last few years and now they're not. If they didn't spend recklessly they should have been able to save some money to get through times. If anything, this is a much better argument for extending unemployment benefits to all, than just giving a break to home builders.

4. Yes, we all feel for these people but see 1 again and see 4. Industries go belly up from lack of demand. It happens.

5. In theory yes, Congress could extend it to any company, but they're not, and why is that? Could it be because of the concentrated interest of the builders lobby, disproportionate to their size and importance in the overall economy? Many people have gotten fired this year, and would surely love to get a break against past income from the years when they had a job, but only homebuilders are getting it. Why? Because they have a lobby.

It's good to have an open exchanged on this, but it's still total dreck anyway you slice it.

Posted by: baruza | April 10, 2008 at 05:43 PM

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"Firstly, the argument that all builders overbuilt to simply assuage their own greed is simply inaccurate”

Not all... They know who they are.

"Secondly… It’s because of the issues with the credit market that nonspeculators can’t sell their homes either…”

You’re cartin’ before da horsie on this one. They can’t sell because the homes are WAY overpriced and folks are finally wising up. You should be telling the banks to be transparent, keep proper books and deal with this “issue” asap.

"Thirdly… Remember… $15 billion…? Or the $3.6… the $4.5… the $1.5…? Although there was plenty of outrage accompanying the $124-billion bailout of S&Ls during 1986-1995, the potential consequences of doing nothing were far more serious.”

All those examples except the last were chump change (is Keating over there?). Oh… those “potential consequences” again. The interconnected, lattice work of counter party interests… pull out this string and the tapestry unwinds to a pile of worthless thread. Right. Seems a little thinning of the herd would be a good thing at this point. Way, way, way too many businesses operating as speculative investment banks, overleveraging to the absurd and making dishonest profits off of hard working citizens.

"Fourthly, ...Today you see multi-generational homebuilders closing their doors not due to greed, but due to market forces beyond their control. At risk? Nearly five million jobs or 3.5% of the U.S. workforce related to residential construction…”

Most of these immigrant construction workers hired during the bubble replaced multi-generations of contractors and hard working folks that like working with their hands and building solid houses for their fellow Americans… young folks working summer construction jobs to make it through college, etc. Point is, there’s plenty of empathy to go around in this mess… but, that doesn’t mean my tax dollars should prop up this current crop. However you want to slice and dice it, all builders combined did create a glut of homes on the market, they all charged too much, they hired cheap labor at American’s expense and they all made significant profits for many years.

"Finally, this tax break oriented towards home builders is in theory available to any company facing current financial losses after years of profits… giving innocent companies… some much-needed breathing room to stick around for the eventual rebound.”

So, us millions of “innocent” individuals/families currently priced out of this over-priced housing market don’t finally deserve some “breathing room” in the form of lower home prices. You want to support bailouts that payout tax dollars to the wealthy few and as part of a larger bailout that seeks to prop up these high home prices as long as possible.

Sounds like typical shill-speak.

Posted by: JohnnyB | April 10, 2008 at 06:41 PM

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Wow, Duffy sounds just like a Realtor, which means he's some combination of four things.

1. Seeing only what he wants to see.
2. Lying to try and help his cause.
3. Stupid.
4. Wrong.

And without meaning to he points out the biggest hazard, the implied government bailout for businesses who are in trouble regardless of the reason. (and why don't they help out the car industry? Or travel agents? Or US companies getting eaten alive by free trade?

The fact that has been proven by all the government "action" so far remains, this problem is simply too big for Washington to solve. They're throwing 200 billion at a multi-trillion dollar problem and frankly having a heap of unintended consequences.

Funny how all these financial "geniuses" fail to see the obvious.

Posted by: 150 Multiple Choice Questions | April 10, 2008 at 07:43 PM

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Holy moly Duffster, you're cracking me up, LOL. I couldn't hardly get past your 1st point, might we examine it, please?

"Firstly, the argument that all builders overbuilt to simply assuage their own greed is simply inaccurate (some did, most didn’t). In fact, according to Paul Emrath at the NAHB, most builders were trying to meet an artificial demand created by speculators who were lying to sales agents, lying on sales contracts and lying on mortgage applications.

Start off with the 2nd sentence. Whenever anyone says 'In fact,' the whopper may well be coming their way, in this case it sure is, in spades! Let me get this straight, you say good guy builders were trying like all git out to help build homes & phony speculators were lying to sales agents, on sales agreements, & on 1003's to loan officers & brokers. Pat, sober up, back away from the crack pipe, or stop trying to do stand-up comedy.

Your statement is laughable & idiotic because anybody in ANY PART of the home ownership chain, from developer to builder to lender to real estate agent to appraiser to pest inspector to escrow officer to structural inspector to ad infinitum KNOWS that the builder has ALMOST ALL the control, they employ their own hand picked real estate agents on sight, have cut their own deals with two or three APPROVED LENDERS, & control the escrow process down to the last iota.

Let me spell it out for you, folks in the industry that have worked 100's if not thousands of transactions aren't likely to be buffaloed by a newbie flipper, or a speculator of ANY shade, lol, and they'll NEVER fool an underwriter.

I did like you using 'clucking' & 'ranting' though. Can I get a symphony of 200 tiny violins for those poor, deceived, country bumpkin builders that just fell off the lumber truck next to the construction site, please?

Posted by: bottom line | April 11, 2008 at 01:12 AM

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Mr. Duffy's argument falls apart completely when looked at closely.

"The argument that all builders overbuilt to simply assuage their own greed is simply inaccurate".

Mr. Duffy then goes on to cite the National Association of Home Builders, certainly an unbiased source. He claims that homebuilders were victims -- of lying speculators. Right. In fact, homebuilders were only too happy to sell to anyone who could get a contract. As was pointed out in earlier replies, the largest of these homebuilders had their own sales and financing arms, so they had multiple incentives to sell at inflated prices to whomever.

"Secondly, if we simply had speculators leaving the scene and dumping their existing inventory onto the market, we wouldn’t be seeing the 60% reduction in building activity that we have today. It’s because of the issues with the credit market that nonspeculators can’t sell their homes either..."

What does that have to do with a tax credit for homebuilders? The reason people can't qualify for mortgages now is that sanity has returned to lending. No longer can fog a mirror, stated income, no documentation, pick a payment financing qualify you to buy a home. Now you actually have to prove you have a job and will be able to make payments, as well is put some skin in the game.

"Thirdly, even before the Fed-supported Bear Stearns buyout, this country had a long-standing policy of propping up industries when the risks to the economy outweigh those clucking on about 'moral hazards,'"

The argument here seems to be five wrongs make a right. I don't happen to agree with any of the bail out the sites, but for arguments purposes -- the airlines business was affected by a terrorist attack, not their own greed; Long-Term Capital Management and Continental Illinois were not bailed out, they disappeared; Chrysler got a loan, which they paid back early; and Savings & Loans also disappeared -- in the bail out was to protect depositors.

"By only considering the financial strength of large builders such as Lennar or Pulte, he completely dismisses the fates of the tens of thousands of builders and remodelers..."

But in fact, it is precisely these large builders that will get the tax break. First, they are the ones that speculated, buying land and sinking money into thousand home plus developments that have now cost them hundreds of millions of dollars. Second, they're the ones that are required under accounting rules to mark these assets down. Your local homebuilder who may have bought land has no such requirement. He has two choices, sit on the land and wait until things improve, or sell it. It is these large public homebuilders who have to mark their assets to market, that will be able to take advantage of this tax loss carry back.

"Nearly five million jobs or 3.5% of the U.S. workforce related to residential construction, filled by people who had no say in how the large public builders ran their businesses". As other respondents have pointed out, the home building industry achieved a remarkable feat. They were able to outsource their workforce without ever leaving home. Nearly three quarters of all jobs in the home building industry have been filled by immigrants, mostly illegal. Don't ask me to cry for Argentina (or Mexico, or Guatemala, or Honduras). Ask the Americans that used to hold those jobs, at good wages, whether they think the homebuilder should be bailed out.

"Finally, this tax break oriented towards home builders is in theory available to any company facing current financial losses after years of profits, and had been done before as part of an economic stimulus package enacted by Congress in March 2002 to address fallout from the attacks of 9/11/01..."

Again, he conflates self caused problems with a terrorist attack. But his point about this being available to other companies is correct. But who are the companies that are now having huge losses, after years of stupendous profits? Those who caused this bubble, and its subsequent pop! So in addition to homebuilders -- mortgage lending companies, banks and investment banks will all be able to share in the riches. Meanwhile, the deficit burden on our children and grandchildren grows and grows.

Finally, let's look at what the effects of a wave of homebuilder bankruptcies be? What do these homebuilders consist of? They usually have a small administrative staff, a staff of construction managers, and a sales force. They outsource most of the building cavities to subcontractors. Many of them are "virtual builders", with only administrative and sales staff.

Their assets consist of raw land, improved land, and housing inventory. It's not like they have factories. If they went bankrupt, what happens? The lenders seize their land and inventory, and look for buyers. A number of people lose their jobs, but whoever buys it and eventually develops the property will hire those experienced people.

There is virtually no barrier to entry in the home building industry. Anybody who can scrape up the money can buy land and hire staff to develop and build. So if Pulte, KB and Lennar went out of business tomorrow, somebody would be there to purchase foreclosed assets from the bank, and eventually develop the property.

Methinks Patrick Duffy should take his DVD set of Dallas and watch his namesake, rather than penning superficial op-ed pieces.

Posted by: Brian | April 11, 2008 at 04:39 AM

Thursday, March 20, 2008

L.A. price declines larger in cheaper, more outlying areas


Blogger Peter Viles at L.A. Land has compiled an interesting collection of stats on recent existing home activity for various zip codes in Los Angles County. His original theory was that more entry-level areas were taking a larger hit on prices, but I think it's more than just that -- some of these areas are also further out from employment centers, so it makes sense that the larger price declines would take place in places such as Palmdale and Lancaster. After all, if you could buy a home an newly affordable home in the San Fernando Valley, why would you commute further to the Santa Clarita or Antelope Valleys? For more central areas -- such as Reseda and Norwalk -- it's also the issue of the credit crunch impacting the availability of mortgages. Very interesting stats!

Here's the table he provided in his post:

Area/ZIP No. of sales Median Price decline from Feb. '07
Lancaster/93536 50 $258,000 -31.7%
Palmdale/93551 36 $308,000 -25.8%
Reseda/91335 35 $393,000 -26.0%
Norwalk/90650 30 $352,000 -27.8%
Lancaster/93535 29 $202,000 -36.0%
Long Beach/90808 27 $515,000 -8.0%
Altadena/91001 25 $549,000 -8.6%
Granada Hills/91344 24 $469,000 -23.4%
La Mirada/90638 23 $450,000 -16.7%
Lakewood/90712 23 $430,000 -19.9%
LA/Mar Vista/90066 22 $832,000 +0.8%
Lancaster/93534 22 $185,000 -36.2%
Northridge/91325 22 $565,000 -26.1%
Rancho P.V./90275 22 $1.11 Million +3.3%
North Hills/91343 21 $440,000 -21.4%
Palmdale/93552 21 $238,000 -33.9%
Canyon Country/91351 20 $405,000 -19.0%
Claremont/91711 20 $495,000 -16.2%
Pico Rivera/90660 20 $380,000 -20.3%

Below $300K: Avg. price change is -34.5%
$300K-$400K: Avg. price change is -26.8%
$400K-$600K: Avg. price change is -17.7%
$600K-$800K: No ZIPs with 20 or more sales
$800K and above: Avg. price change is +2.0%